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TCO Chat Session Transcript
Handle | Comment |
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jmpld40 | Welcome to the Facebook Chat Room! |
FB_Matt | Welcome to the Facebook/TopCoder SRM 447 |
TAG | jmpld40: ;-) |
FameofLight | FB_Clifton: what are the opportunities in India |
AnilKishore | jmpld40: same to you |
FB_Mary_Ann | yay! and hello |
Rajat_Mathur90 | Hello |
shiv_vic123 | Hi all |
FB_Matt | we currently don't don't have developer opportunities in India at the moment but we do sponsor visas and offer relocation assistance |
Evadez | welcome facebook ppl |
deepfritz01 | Do you have an internship duration? or is it completely dependent on the work assigned to intern? |
FB_Tim | Hey everyone, thanks for joining us |
FB_Clifton | FameofLight: Our internships are usually 12 weeks in duration. |
FB_Mary_Ann | internships are generally about 12 weeks long |
mbr1 | do you have work for unexperienced young non students good for nothing programmers that love to code? |
FB_Clifton | FameofLight: Oh yes! |
dirtydeeds | hi |
jaher | Is there an office in Europe for software engineers? |
Drahkir | Hi, are there any internship opportunities available for CS majors? |
FB_Mary_Ann | @Drahkir-- YES |
FB_Clifton | (Sorry, still learning this thing.) Right now all of our engineering occurs in Palo Alto, CA. |
FB_Clifton | @jaher |
FB_Tim | mbrl: Your coding ability is generally the most valuable thing to us - more than various credentials |
dchana | how do you determine our coding abilities/ |
kromm | Palo Alto? Do you happen to pay in those nifty IOUs? :P |
Drahkir | I'm going to Indiana University. If I were to be accepted for a FB internship, would I need to relocate? |
abm | do people pursuing graduation have internship opportunities? |
FB_Tim | dchana: www.facebook.com/careers/puzzles.php is a good place to start |
FB_Matt | you can show us your skills by solving one of our puzzles |
el_vitucho | Do you consider the FB Puzzles solutions? |
CodeRacer | Hi everybody! |
TiKay | do you also support visas for international interns? |
FB_Matt | http://www.facebook.com/careers/puzzles.php |
FB_Clifton | @drahkir - yes all of our internships require relocation to Palo Alto, CA |
FB_Tim | dchana: Once you get an interview we put you through pretty rigorous coding exercises |
vpramod | hi all |
luizrrodrigues | hi |
MauricioC | FB_Tim: Are those exercises mostly algorithmic or mostly framework-ish? |
nittu | Om what basis u are going to call for interview????? |
FB_Matt | @el_vitucho yes we strongly consider puzzle submissions |
FB_Tim | MauricioC: We have a variety of coding questions to test those skills as well as high-level architecture questions |
FB_Matt | it shows that you can code if you can get past the hard puzzles |
FB_David | el_vitucho: A correct puzzle solution will probably get you an interview |
TheVipeer | Are there internship opportunities for students from outside the US? Do you sponsor visas? |
FB_Tim | MauricioC: for example you may be asked to design a large system similar to something used at facebook, then asked to implement a couple small parts of it |
el_vitucho | FB_David: how many puzzles do i need to solve to get an interview? |
FB_David | el_vitucho: The difficulty of the puzzle and quality of your code are definitely taken into account |
el_vitucho | FB_David: cause i did like 5 |
dchana | how many puzzles do I have to solve to know I will expect a call from fb? |
nittu | u will call for for onsite interview or it will be telephonic???? |
FB_Clifton | TheVipeer: Yes, we offer internship opportunities for international students. We offer visa sponsorship visas. |
FB_Matt | TheVipeer: yes we sponsor visas |
paramaggarwal | FameofLight: Hi, I am also from your coll. Who is it? |
FB_Mary_Ann | @nittu if you are not in the area, then the first interview will be via phone |
FB_Matt | TheVipeer: if you're a solid engineer, we'll make it work |
Rajat_Mathur90 | he is Hemant Verma sir |
CodeRacer | good, so any country can participate |
MauricioC | FB_Tim: Ah, I see. Cool! And how big are the algorithmic needs at facebook? |
dchana | how do we practice and become good at the type of coding that facebook wants? |
Rajat_Mathur90 | One of the better coders in 4th yr |
ahmed.helal | FB_Clifton: Are the internships bounded by a certain start/end date or is it just a 3 month intership that starts whenever suitable ? |
FB_Tim | MauricioC: There's a huge amount of interesting work all over the company =) |
adamuu | I solved the sophie problem. |
FB_Tim | MauricioC: Aside from what you see on the main site there is a ton of algorithmic processing going on to make it all work |
FB_Clifton | ahmed.helal: A majority of our interns starts during the summer months in the June - August timeframe. However we have interns here at other times in the year too. We typically follow the academic calendar. |
luizrrodrigues | E se alguéperguntar em portugues, quem responde? rs |
CodeRacer | are there any age boundaries? |
dirtydeeds | will you be interested in programmers in division2 |
FB_Mary_Ann | code |
FB_Clifton | luizrrodrigues: Hablo espanol. |
ahmed.helal | FB_Clifton: It is just that the academic calendar may differ from a country to another, not much though the difference could be a month or two. |
tsebayoth | luizrrodrigues: Acho que precisa ser em inglê |
tsebayoth | luizrrodrigues: :) |
jmpld40 | Facebook folks: what's it like to work at Facebook, the atmosphere and such? |
FB_Matt | dirtydeeds: sure, if you can prove you're good we'll hire you. We suggest you take a crack at some of our puzzles |
tryitn2 | FB_Tim: you work in C# or C++ ? what is facebook built on or do people work on php |
FB_Mary_Ann | CodeRacer no age limits |
luizrrodrigues | tsebayoth: Nãmanjo nada de inglê.. |
nittu | will you call for interview on thebasis of the result of this srm???? |
FB_Matt | FB_Matt: Facebook = awesometown |
FB_Clifton | ahmed.helal: We can definitely work with you on the exact dates should it get to that point. |
tsebayoth | luizrrodrigues: acho que nãexiste escritó aqui no brasil do facebook |
adamuu | **adamuu quotes Dilbert. "We don't like to use the 'O' word..." |
supo | FB_Matt: speaking of which, why there are no ranking lists for solvers of your puzzles? |
tsebayoth | luizrrodrigues: então inglêéecessáo |
luizrrodrigues | FB_Clifton: Oláque oportunidade alguéque nãfala em inglêtem? |
tryitn2 | FB_Clifton: you work in C# or C++ ? what is facebook built on or do people work on php |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: The front-end is generally php and javascript, which I spend some time on. We started an open-source project called thrift that allows for language-agnostic client-server architectures that lets you work in basically whatever language you like |
FB_David | supo: You should check out Dinosaur Island, there's a highscore table for it |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: I do a lot of work in java, but C++ is also very popular |
FB_Matt | supo: want to build it? |
FB_Matt | supo: we have a puzzles badge |
nittu | FB_Tim: will you call for interview on thebasis of the result of this srm???? |
luizrrodrigues | tsebayoth: Realmente |
FB_Clifton | luizrrodrigues: Lo siento - hablo espanol solo. |
agsharath | FB_ |
AjJi | Why aren't you using an online judge (almost instant response) for your puzzles ? :) |
agsharath | FB_ |
FB_Tim | nittu: maybe, if you opt-in to be contacted and you do a great job =) |
FB_David | el_vitucho: I'll check into your case and have our recruiters get in touch with you |
supo | FB_Matt: I just found about your puzzles 2 days ago, solved only 2 green ones and found out there is no global ranklist.. that is kind of dissapointing for people brought up at the topcoder ;-) |
luizrrodrigues | FB_Clifton: Okay, I use a translator ... rs |
dchana | how do we improve our coding skillst that is suitable for facebook? |
FB_Matt | puzzles link here - http://www.facebook.com/careers/puzzles.php |
agsharath | FB_Clifton: Hi Clifton, do you remember me? sharath from columbia univ |
CodeRacer | FB_* DO you mainly write a lot of code or you have some modelling platform? |
ahmed.helal | FB_Clifton: Are there internship opportunities for designers as well ? |
FB_Matt | supo: yeah I agree, just need more developers to build out cool things like that |
AjJi | FB_Matt: Why aren't you using an online judge (almost instant response) for your puzzles instead of this "every 4hours" check ? :) |
FB_Clifton | agsharath: Yes! How are you? |
jaher | what kind of internships do you have? Software engineer, UX designer ..., etc? |
FB_Mary_Ann | ahmed.helal: yes! there are designer internships |
el_vitucho | why dont you give some another motivation to solve the puzzles? like more albums limits or smthing like that? |
agsharath | FB_Clifton: good! so is FB planning to come to columbia ? |
agsharath | FB_Clifton: this fall ? |
tryitn2 | FB_Tim: do you focus more on distributed algorithms or multi-core (parallel) algorithms ? |
FB_Tim | dchana: personally, working to get lightning fast at simpler topcoder problems was some of the best practice for getting a job here |
FB_Clifton | agsharath: Unfortunately we've decided to focus our attention on fewer schools this year. |
supo | FB_Matt: I wonder, how many people and how much of their time is devoted to puzzles (creating new ones, adding features etc)? |
FB_Sarah | TiKay |
FB_Clifton | agsharath: However, feel free to spread word about FB at Columbia. |
dchana | FB_Tim: thanks! |
ahmed.helal | FB_Mary_Ann: what qualifies for a designer internship then ? i dont think its the puzzles also, is it ? :) |
dchana | FB_Tim: Thanks |
supo | FB_David: I've already seen the problem statement of that one, sounds like fun ;-) |
FB_Matt | supo: just a few, tim and david chatting here build our puzzles |
MauricioC | el_vitucho: How does "a possible job at Facebook" sound worse than "more album pictures"? |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: Well in generally we are fans of multi-core work, but we also do a lot of distributed stuff |
MauricioC | el_vitucho: Plus, it would just encourage cheating |
vpramod | i want to apply facebook |
CodeRacer | so do i |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: we use a lot of hadoop and other open-source distributed tools to keep everything running |
vpramod | but they dont reply :) |
el_vitucho | MauricioC: Im asking that cause i solved some puzzles |
agsharath | FB_Clifton: Sure, I'm interested in full time oppurtunities in FB, I'll be graduating this december. What do you suggest to do to get a call |
supo | FB_Matt: and I guess it is not their priority #1 job right? |
FB_Matt | if you'd like to apply for our careers, show your interested here - http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=tournaments&d2=tco09&d3=overview&d4=sponsors&d5=eventSponsor3Confirm |
el_vitucho | MauricioC: and after that i didnt get enough motivation to solve them all |
tryitn2 | FB_Tim: hadoop is java right ? so no database , just key-value pairs |
MauricioC | el_vitucho: Oh, that makes much more sense. Sorry. |
FB_Clifton | vpramod: Our apologies... we try our hardest to get back to all candidates. |
el_vitucho | MauricioC: i mean, theres one new puzzle every month |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: Yeah, but we do have a huge distributed database and cache system as well |
el_vitucho | MauricioC: or something like that |
dchana | how much do junior engineers make at FB? |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: we definitely have some sql wizards around the office |
vpramod | i applied once and after that .. your submission system dont take my resume |
MauricioC | el_vitucho: You're way better than me at that, I just found out about FB puzzles :) |
FB_Sarah | vpramod: did you express interest in FB? |
yellowgreen | hello |
vpramod | even my updated resume |
FB_David | agsharath: A great way to get noticed is to solve a puzzle and attach your resume to the submission - it will get forwarded directly to our recruiters if the submisison is correct... it's how I got my interview |
vpramod | yes |
FB_Sarah | vpramod: send it to us |
joncalhoun | FB_Clifton: Did FB create the problems being used in today's SRM? |
luizrrodrigues | FB_Clifton: What chance a person who does not speak English have? |
tryitn2 | FB_Tim: why do you need SQL when you use hadoop ? Aren't those different. |
kevmo314 | Does Facebook have any internships? |
vpramod | where ? |
ntn | is FB hiring in California? |
Shinta | Hi, do you have a recruitment plan for LatinAmerica? |
FB_Sarah | luizrrodrigues: it's important for everyone to speak english here |
Duc | FB_Clifton: Hello! Does FB have any intership to work online? |
pt1989 | Which countries does FB have workplaces in ? |
agsharath | FB_Clifton: Awesome. when do you suggest I apply? |
dchana | do you have to be very sociable to work at FB? |
FB_Sarah | luizrrodrigues: but it's fine if you're not fluent |
FB_Matt | ntn: YES! our headquarters are located in Palo Alto, CA |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: We use them for different applications. A lot of the raw data used by the site is stored in databases with a memcache layer on top of them |
FB_David | ntn: Yes, definitely! We're based in Palo Alto |
FB_Sarah | pt1989: all eng offices |
TAG | FB_Matt: Matt - that's URL does not show ANY confirmation if Apply worked or not. Endless loop |
ntn | thank you |
Rotkiv | FB_Tim: any part time work for students? |
tryitn2 | FB_Tim: sounds like clone of wikipedia :) |
pt1989 | i mean which countries ? |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: and a lot of other information is getting crunched in hadoop |
samshu | Do you recruit in India? |
vpramod | can u plz tell me where i submit my cv? |
FB_Sarah | pt1989: we can recruit internationally |
luizrrodrigues | FB_Clifton: Thanks. |
vpramod | email ? |
tryitn2 | FB_Tim: or the other way around. |
FB_David | Rotkiv: I have it on good authority that there is in fact part time work for students ;) |
FB_Richard | Shinta: Hi, no plans for Latin America in the near term |
FB_Sarah | pt1989: but everyone has to relocate |
ntn | should I just solve the puzzle to show my interests in Facebook? |
FB_Sarah | vpramod: sure |
FB_Sarah | vpramod: email it to me |
pt1989 | FB_Sarah: where to ? |
Technophilis | FB_David: When you have to apply to be able to start an internship by the summer ? |
FB_Sarah | vpramod: : skurien@facebook.com |
wack-a-mole | Do you have to live in the US to work at FB? |
FB_Sarah | vpramod: we can look ait |
vpramod | thans |
vpramod | nice |
FB_Sarah | pt1989: yes |
supo | FB_Matt: yeah I understand that. By the way, what is the level you expect from the aplicants for lets say an internship? Should I be able to solve all the puzzles in a week and then just drop you an email that I'm interested? |
FB_Sarah | pt1989: you will need to relocate |
FB_Sarah | pt1989: bu we can help you |
FB_Sarah | pt1989: we can hire internationally |
mystic_tc | unclever: please direct your question to service@topcoder.com |
FB_Sarah | pt1989: we have already hired several international |
FB_Sarah | pt1989: ppl this year |
unclever | mystic_tc: Thanks. |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: very possible =) |
diakatana | FB_Sarah: what prog lang if FB interested in |
samshu | FB_David: hi! do you recruit in India? |
FB_Sarah | pt1989: any language is fine |
ahmed.helal | FB_Mary_Ann: srry got dc :), did you get my last question ? it was about the qualifications for a designer internship interview |
FB_Sarah | diakatana: any language is fine |
tryitn2 | FB_Tim: do you build thoose tools yourself , like heartbeat tools or failover , or just use things like linux-ha tools |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: I don't happen to know who invented these various approaches |
FB_Sarah | diakatana: php |
pt1989 | FB_Sarah: so how does one apply for an internship ? |
FB_Sarah | diakatana: c++ |
mystic_tc | unclever: I believe you can first check http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=applet&d2=plugins |
diakatana | FB_Sarah: whats the work mainly in? |
FB_Sarah | diakatana: is what we mostly work in |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: We have a huge and powerful set of internal tools that we built ourselves |
mystic_tc | unclever: two links at the top |
FB_Sarah | diakatana: but you can interview in whatever you want |
FB_Sarah | diakatana: language wise |
FB_Clifton | luizrrodrigues: Sorry about that... unfortunately English is the preferred language in which we do business in. |
Duc | FB_Sarah: Do you recruit in Singapore? |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: Very little of what we use if off-the shelf, if any of it |
FB_Matt | supo: we expect super fast, clean code. If you successfully solve some of our puzzles, the correct submissions will be sent directly to our recruiting team |
FB_Sarah | pt1989: send us your resume |
vpramod | so do u work in computer vision ? |
FB_Sarah | pt1989: skurien@facebook.com |
pt1989 | FB_Sarah: ok, thanks |
unclever | mystic_tc: I checked it,but I can just get the API documents. |
FB_Sarah | Duc: you can come here |
dimkadimon | Is it possible to work for FB without relocating, ie to work online? |
FB_Sarah | Duc: singapore is totally great |
tryitn2 | FB_Tim: how are things at facebook different from myspace ? what does it do better in terms of algorithm/processing/data |
FB_Sarah | Duc: you can come here |
pt1989 | FB_Sarah: what kind of skillsets are you looking forward to, and how long does an internship last usually ? |
tryitn2 | FB_Tim: or orkut |
FB_Sarah | pt1989: internships are about 3 months long |
FB_Sarah | diakatana: work is in everything |
FB_David | Facebook sponsors visas for people from other countries, if you're interested in coming to the US to join us =) |
FB_Sarah | diakatana: front end and back end stuff |
pt1989 | FB_Sarah: is 3 months the minimum or maximum or average? |
sfmunera | FB_Sarah: Hi, have you hired any colombian? |
FB_Sarah | diakatana: aout average |
wack-a-mole | So how should you apply if you want to relocate to the US? |
FB_Richard | dimkadimon: we prefer to have you work in Palo Alto, given our highly collaborative work |
supo | FB_Matt: then do you advise me to just keep solving and they will contact me if interested? |
Technophilis | FB_David: A kind of an insider question here : do you think that by solving the medium difficulty puzzles on the facebook's website you can get an interview ? |
dimkadimon | Does the work at FB involve algorithms or mostly user interface? |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: Well one thing that we do that seems to work well for us is starting and contributing to open-source projects |
FB_Sarah | sfmunera: no but we would love to |
FB_Sarah | sfmunera: :) |
lantimilan | When do students apply for next summer's internship? |
vpramod | i just join topcodder today .. only to chat with u guys.. |
FB_Matt | supo: yes, that's the best way to get our attention and prove your skills |
FB_Sarah | pt1989: average |
vpramod | so do i need to compete here or .. |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: we've started a lot of projects (thrift, scribe, etc) that work on a huge scale and contributed them back to the open-source community |
vpramod | at the time of interview |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: and we see awesome contributions on those from people outside the company, which is amazing |
FB_Clifton | lantimilan: They start applying this fall. |
agsharath | FB_Clifton: Any numbers on how many facebook plans to hire this fall? |
jchonphoenix | just curious |
FB_Clifton | lantimilan: Fall being the September time frame. Our internship posting will be on our careers site in the next week. |
jchonphoenix | is facebook bringin the hackathon back to cmu this fall |
FB_Clifton | agsharath: We don't have concrete numbers right now but I can tell you that if you're good and can hack we'll hire you. |
supo | FB_Tim: I loved what you guys did to the memcached and how you put it back to the community! |
vpramod | good |
sfmunera | wack-a-mole: wack |
vlad_D | dbh: loza |
joncalhoun | FB Sponsors: When would you suggest students who intend to graduate within a year to start applying for a full time job? |
sfmunera | wack-a-mole: Where are you from? |
FB_Tim | supo: thanks! have you gotten any use out of it yourself? |
jmpld40 | Facebook folks: what's your favorite part about your job? |
dimkadimon | How many TopCoders are already working for FB? |
FB_Matt | agsharath: we plan to do a lot of hiring, especially for engineers |
FB_Clifton | dimkadimon: Definitely the people and the feeling that I'm a part of something bigger. |
FB_Marcia | jchonphoenix: we're not doing a hackathon again at cmu, but we'll be on campus for a tech talk and for the toc at cmu |
FB_Tim | jmpld40: Big problems and big impact are one of the biggest attractions of working here |
CodeRacer | Guys, how you score the salaries of developers of FB, are they competitive enough? |
chandubaba | FB_Matt: non engineers? |
FB_David | We currently have over 200 engineers and we're growing very quickly =) |
wack-a-mole | FB_Matt: What's the way to apply if I want to relocate to tue US? |
FB_Tim | jmpld40: We have a relatively tiny team of engineers doing a lot to change the way people communicate and connect around the world |
FB_Mary_Ann | chandubaba: what sort of non engineer? |
supo | FB_Tim: not yet, but right now I'm working on a django project that may need memcached quite soon, so I was just checking it out ;-) |
tryitn2 | FB_Tim: just curios , do you use haskell or erlang or python or ruby for a parallel problem or you have some libraries of your own |
chandubaba | FB_Matt: doing IT degree |
agsharath | FB_Clifton: around how many solved facebook puzzles would guarantee a call? |
jchonphoenix | @Marcia: Thanks! |
FB_David | My favorite thing about working here is the great coworkers - everyone is brilliant and interesting, and there's a really good sense of being on the same team =) |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: Personally, I haven't. However a lot of the back-end of our chat service runs on erlang for that exact reason |
jchonphoenix | @Marcia: Thanks! |
yellowgreen | we really dont need to be in the dev track to be qualified for facebook hiring? |
FB_Mary_Ann | definitely a really smart team of co-workers--FB is great! |
CodeRacer | FB_David what about money you earn? |
FB_Tim | supo: that's awesome, I hope it turns out to be helpful for you! |
FB_Matt | chandubaba: yes, we're growing immensly and we have opportunities in many areas, but our priority now is hiring the best engineers in the world |
el_vitucho | is mobile development important to FB? |
Technophilis | Does Facebook sponsor H-1B visas for international applicants ? and eventually a Green Card ? |
FB_David | Salary is based on experience and ability, we have competitive salaries =) |
FB_Tim | el_vitucho: definitely, it's an extremely quickly-growing area for us |
FB_Clifton | Technophilis: Yes we do. |
yellowgreen | FB_Clifton: where can we find the fb puzzle? |
FB_Matt | CodeRacer: We don't publicly discuss salary of employees at Facebook, but we pay aggressive salaries, equity, and benefits that are based on industry standards and given our company‘s current stage of development |
Technophilis | FB_Clifton: Okay Thanks |
supo | FB_Tim: thanks |
andrey_korol | Are you have some realocation program for developers family? |
CodeRacer | thanks |
wack-a-mole | I want to work at Facebook. What should I do? |
FB_Tim | el_vitucho: our mobile site is gaining users extremely quickly and we are doing a lot of work to add features and generally improve the experience |
realitydeviant | FB_Tim: Do you have a website? |
dchana | whos' the best coder in FB? |
MauricioC | yellowgreen: http://www.facebook.com/careers/puzzles.php |
FB_Matt | el_vitucho: mobile development is very important. We want facebook everywhere, and mobile is a perfect platform for facebook |
el_vitucho | Do you have like a mobile development team? |
FB_Clifton | MauricioC: Thanks! |
yellowgreen | realitydeviant: have you ever heard of facebook.com? |
FB_Mary_Ann | MauricioC: Thanks! |
FB_Tim | realitydeviant: I'll have to consult my manager |
wack-a-mole | I want to work at Facebook. What do I do? |
FB_David | andrey_korol: Yes, we do offer relocation programs for families of engineers |
MauricioC | You're welcome :) |
Maxi | maurito.s: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=applet&d2=plugins |
FB_Tim | el_vitucho: yep, we have a team dedicated to the mobile site as well as more specific projects like the iphone site |
FB_Tim | el_vitucho: that team has been growing very quickly |
CodeRacer | FB_David could you provide the source for info about family relocation pragrams |
andrey_korol | FB_David: Thanks |
TiKay | How's life in silicon valley? |
FB_David | wack-a-mole: A good way to get started is to solve a puzzle, see http://www.facebook.com/PuzzleMaster |
FB_Tim | TiKay: I wouldn't leave it for the world =) |
TiKay | :) |
lucasufrn | In which field is the biggest segment of the employees involved in? (algorithms, architecture, designing, ...) |
FB_Mary_Ann | TiKay: always interesting and a little warmer than san francisco :) |
FB_David | TiKay: The weather's great =) |
pt1989 | FB_Tim: how many FB challenges should we solve? |
wack-a-mole | FB_David: Will FB help with visas and housing? |
pt1989 | FB_Tim: also is the internship flexible ? |
FB_Clifton | CodeRacer: We offer relocation assistance to you and your famil... it is consistent and competitive with what is offered in Silicon Valley. |
FB_David | wack-a-mole: Yep =) |
wack-a-mole | FB_David: Do you have to be graduated to apply? Or is there any project for students? |
jmpld40 | to apply for Facebook jobs, go here: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=tournaments&d2=tco09&d3=overview&d4=sponsors&d5=sponsor3 |
FB_Tim | pt1989: solving one non-trivial puzzle is enough to get you on our radar, but to stand apart from the crowd I'd recommend doing a few more than that. |
CodeRacer | thanks |
FB_Tim | pt1989: As for internships, they are definitely flexible but you'd have to discuss details with a recruiter |
pt1989 | FB_Tim: thanks, i'll be on it ( but not at 6 AM :) ) |
jaher | are the schedules flexible? Is it possible to work from midnight to noon? |
FB_Tim | pt1989: Hah, cool. best of luck! |
FB_Matt | jaher: yes, we're very flexible |
Pritam | syco: yo |
FB_Tim | jaher: definitely. people work on whatever schedule works for them. |
pt1989 | FB_Tim: does FB have a parent company ? |
FB_Tim | jaher: as long as it's conducive to productivity =) |
FB_David | jaher: That's very possible, and lots of engineers do =) |
pt1989 | FB_Tim: or is it independant ? |
CodeRacer | )) |
FB_Tim | pt1989: it's just us, no strings attached |
yangweikun | **yangweikun why are we here |
FB_David | pt1989: No parent company just us |
yangweikun | **yangweikun hello |
soparrissays | what is facebook? |
syco | Pritam: pritameeeeee |
FB_David | wack-a-mole: from solving puzzles |
yangweikun | why are we here |
FB_David | wack-a-mole: http://www.facebook.com/PuzzleMaster |
Pritam | syco: what you doing in this chat lobby?:-P |
FB_Matt | jaher: We have a very flexible working schedule at Facebook. Everyone has different work style preferences about how, where and when they're most productive. |
syco | Pritam: er..i logged into this automatically |
Pritam | syco: lol |
QASH | what is meant by a "non-trivial" puzzle |
mohmdadel | any arabian competitors here ?? |
pt1989 | QASH: hard puzzle |
userundefined | hi there, where does facebook have offices? |
mohan8990 | Any career in Facebook in India.? |
soparrissays | no but i eat arab food |
wack-a-mole | FB_David: I have solved a few of the trivial ones |
soparrissays | sometimes |
oldherl | do you think being banned in china mainland affects your company a lot? |
wack-a-mole | FB_David: How many did you solve before they contact you? |
FB_Clifton | userundefined: Our main office is in Palo Alto for engineering. |
FB_Tim | QASH: the ones labeled as hors d'ouevres are considered trivial. That's just "meep meep" and "Hoppity" |
FB_David | userundefined: we're in Palo Alto, California |
jaher | are the intern positions open to undergrads from all schools or do you have a subset of schools you prefer to hire from? |
userundefined | Thanks. Any branches in Canada? |
FB_David | wack-a-mole: I solved 3, one hard and 2 easy |
FB_Tim | jaher: intern positions are open to any students that can write awesome code. |
FB_Matt | userundefined: Almost all of our Engineers work at the Facebook headquarters in Palo Alto, California, but we do have smaller sales offices located around the world. |
FB_Mary_Ann | jaher: all schools. You just need to show your coding prowess |
FB_Clifton | userundefined: We have an office in Toronto but it's for sales. |
userundefined | gotcha. Thanks. |
Ariza | Hey2, what's up |
s4sagar | syco: Hi ! I nver see u online these days ! :) |
CodeRacer | FB_Matt Russia or Kazakhstan? |
Atef | FB_David: how about in the middle east, say around Egypt? :) |
ank_it | For Facebook in Mobiles u use J2ME of same PHP?? |
el_vitucho | do you let engineers work on projects that they have proposed? something like google does, one day of the week any googler can work on any other project that they want |
jaher | how many interviews on average do you need to do? |
QASH | submission to those puzzles is a bit tough as well as late, can u guys switch them to TC? |
QASH | only if it is flexible for u guys |
FB_Tim | ank_it: the mobile site is implemented in php |
Atef | FB_David: how about in the middle east, say around Egypt? :) |
FB_Mary_Ann | jaher: for interns, 2-3 usually |
tryitn2 | FB_Clifton: how much of your time do you spend designing , coding,testing ? Do you have people working on QA or do programmers do both |
FB_Tim | ank_it: as for native clients for various devices, I suspect they are implemented in all sorts of crazy languages |
syco | s4sagar: :) |
FB_Matt | CodeRacer: no offices in russia or kazakhstan :) |
syco | s4sagar: been busy |
jchonphoenix | @el_vitucho: thats what the hackathons are |
otter | Can you guys name a few open-source projects that are particularly relevent to the Applications at FB ? |
s4sagar | syco: ONly chat room @ TopCoder huh ;) |
Mince | are there any offices based in Singapore? |
s4sagar | syco: Same mail ids ? :) |
FB_David | el_vitucho: Yes, there's a lot of freedom in what you want to work on and ability to create new projects when you see a need |
FB_Sarah | otter: hive |
CodeRacer | FB_Matt: it's a pity ;) |
soparrissays | serious questions, serious question guys |
FB_Sarah | otter: thrift |
FB_Mary_Ann | hackathons!! |
FB_Sarah | otter: all open source |
el_vitucho | FB_David: excelent |
ankul_iiita | what kind of projects do we get to see? |
soparrissays | how much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood? |
soparrissays | serious question |
FB_Mary_Ann | soparrissays: A LOT |
wack-a-mole | FB_David: Very nice, I remember I read the hards and they where indeed tough |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: We don't have any dedicated testing staff. All engineers are responsible to make sure their code works and handle it if it breaks |
el_vitucho | jchonphoenix: what is hackatons? |
pt1989 | soparrissays: as much as CHuck Norris chucks |
FB_Matt | otter: memcached, hive, etc |
wack-a-mole | FB_David: I will try them again |
soparrissays | where wood is a a factor of constrained optimization |
FB_Matt | otter: we do a lot of open source work |
Mince | Duc: yea im in Singapore (: |
wack-a-mole | FB_David: Have you liked Facebook so far? What is what you like the most? |
wrick | I have done almost all the Facebook puzzles :) |
FB_Tim | tryitn2: So ideally, I think we spend the most time designing, then a little less coding, and a little less testing. But everyone does do at least some testing. |
yellowgreen | wrick: then what are you waiting for? |
jchonphoenix | @el_vitucho: basically a 24hr time frame to code w/e u want then present it |
wrick | FB_Sarah: hi |
FB_David | wack-a-mole: It's a fantastic place to work... I'm really happy here. The atmosphere is great, very relaxed and fun, and everyone is very smart =) |
novicenet | ??????50??? |
ank_it | The Developer does the testing of his codE??? |
MasterLuo | Hello, FB means Facebook? |
el_vitucho | jchonphoenix: interesting |
novicenet | ????? |
FB_Clifton | MasterLuo: yep |
Pomber | the objetive of the puzzles is efficience? |
MasterLuo | ?,????? |
jchonphoenix | @el_vitucho: they held one at my university last year |
novicenet | TG |
FB_Tim | MasterLuo: yep |
jimdavis | = =~ |
novicenet | ??TG??? |
novicenet | ?? |
ortschun | FB_David: are you planning to open some offices in Europe? sorry if it is asked before.. |
jaher | how long do you usually test a feature internally on average before it is launched? |
Ariza | Anyone have Facebook?? |
wack-a-mole | FB_David: Are you originally from the US? How old are you? (If you don't mind) |
dimkadimon | How does working at FB compare to working at Google? |
soparrissays | are you going to use the result of this match in a facebook product or service |
FB_Matt | to apply for Facebook jobs, go here: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=tournaments&d2=tco09&d3=overview&d4=sponsors&d5=sponsor3 |
MasterLuo | FB_Clifton: thx. Facebook is very good website for erveryone. |
soparrissays | :-D |
Pawa | Are you aware of the fact that Russian largest social network Vkontakte is simply cloning Facebook? Any plans to sue them? |
FB_Mary_Ann | dimkadimon: You have a much bigger impact. |
FB_Tim | Pomber: It requires efficiency to pass the grading robot, but we also consider style and elegance when determining if we should bring someone in for an interview |
FB_David | ortschun: We have branches in Europe, London I think, but not for engineering... that's done only in california |
Ariza | dimkadimon: I think Google is better.... :D |
FB_Matt | dimkadimon: I came from google and facebook is much faster and a more fun place to work |
Pomber | FB_Tim: thanks |
CodeRacer | FB_Mat |
dimkadimon | Pawa: Also odnoklassniki looks similar |
Mince | Whats the youngest engineer at Facebook ? |
FB_Tim | jaher: small things can get several hours of testing before they are pushed out, but ideally are always running under unit tests. larger features can take months or weeks with lots of simulated load and other good stuff. |
CodeRacer | Should I be a fan of FB to start working there ) |
soparrissays | what animal is ur favorite in dino island |
TiKay | FB_Matt: how much money did you get for that statement? ;P |
ZxMYS | how much is the prize? |
fun2on | how to get started for Competition |
Pawa | dimkadimon: they are cloning classmates, not facebook :) |
FB_Clifton | TiKay: Lots. ;) |
FB_David | Mince: We have lots of people in their early 20s |
MasterLuo | novicenet: You are so cute. |
rem | Olexiy: you are participating today? |
ZxMYS | how much is the prize? |
wrick | FB_Sarah: sent |
soparrissays | i think the prize is a job |
soparrissays | lol |
Mince | FB_David: cool.. thanks |
romelon85 | yisus |
ZxMYS | soparrissays: lol |
guptavarun | FB_Matt: I would like to build leaderboard/ranklist for Facebook Puzzeles |
FB_Clifton | Mince: The average age is late 20s but we have people here from all ages and backgrounds. |
domino.iiita | lol |
otter | 10 mins to go~ |
ZxMYS | ZxMYS: a job at facebook,sounds good..... |
Mince | FB_Clifton: Any Singaporeans? |
atulbansal | facebook has only 200 engineers? |
FB_Sarah | wrick: awesome |
guptavarun | FB_Matt: Can I be allowed to work on that |
FB_Sarah | wrick: i will be in touch! |
vjtriolo | I'm lucky if I can write code that works, forget awesome. |
FB_Tim | atulbansal: it might be a bit higher than that with all the interns right now, but it's very close to that |
FB_Richard | atulbansal: give or take |
zjintz | 200 engineers? |
eraserhd | Heh, my wife just told me that on the news they said something like "they are thinking about shutting down Facebook because too many people are abusing it." |
FB_Matt | TiKay: it's true, we get to do more and have greater responsibility at facebook |
wrick | FB_Sarah: no probs |
FB_Clifton | Mince: We had an intern from Singapore. Not sure offhand... my mom is Singaporean if that counts. :) |
sfmunera | wack-a-mole: Hi, what part of Colombia are you from? |
Duc | FB_Sarah: Hi, what's your address to send my resume again? :) |
FB_David | atulbansal: We have a little over 200 engineers. We pride ourselves in having over a million users per engineer - where else can you reach so many people =) |
Ryan | eraserhd: they aren't shutting it down, just making it lamer |
WangDanning | How do you think a job at TopCoder |
FB_Sarah | Duc: skurien@facebook.com |
FB_Matt | guptavarun: it could be a side project :) |
Mince | FB_Clifton: Cool. From all backgrounds, regardless of university? |
atulbansal | whats the average team size? |
FB_Clifton | Mince: Yes! |
FB_Matt | guptavarun: to apply for Facebook jobs, go here: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=tournaments&d2=tco09&d3=overview&d4=sponsors&d5=sponsor3 |
FB_Sarah | Jedi_Knight: hi |
vpj | Duc: hey are you coming to Amrita? |
FB_Richard | atulbansal: 3 -5 per project |
sfmunera | wack-a-mole: Yo tambié y dó estudiá |
FB_Sarah | Jedi_Knight: are you interested in an opportunity at Facebook? |
Mince | (: Interesting.. |
FB_Matt | atulbansal: average team size is small. from 3-6 people |
jchonphoenix | @el_vitucho: / |
FB_Matt | atulbansal: it's actually impressive how small teams can make such a huge impact |
eraserhd | If you ever get positions around Cleveland, Ohio, let me know. :) |
Maxi | FB_Sarah: Hi, I would like to know internship opportunities for students. |
fmm | lsa: |
novicenet | ??? |
fmm | lsa: oi verdinha |
atulbansal | which technologies/computer languages are mostly used in Facebook |
FB_Tim | eraserhd: Not open to joining us in california? =) |
wack-a-mole | How many people is working at Palo Alto? |
FB_Sarah | Maxi: hi Maxi |
k4knight | ...???... |
aluxisec | ??! |
guptavarun | I am expoloring to contribute to Apache Mahout. Are you guys using it? |
wack-a-mole | Is it true that Facebook sucks? |
FB_Sarah | Maxi: great! you should email me your resume: skurien@facebook.com |
FB_Sarah | Maxi: i can check if we have a fit |
FB_Sarah | Maxi: sound good? |
FB_Matt | wack-a-mole: the majority of our employees work in Palo Alto |
eraserhd | FB_Tim: Cost of living here is _really_ low. Last time I got a relo to California offer, they couldn't match, adjusted to cost of living. |
novicenet | ????????? |
FB_Matt | wack-a-mole: approx 800-900 |
chhung6 | AEtheReal: HI!! |
k4knight | ???? |
FB_Sarah | Akim: hi |
s4sagar | FB_Sarah: Hi, In India too ? |
FB_David | atulbansal: We use many languages, but for a start: PHP, Python, Erlang, Haskell, Perl, C++, Ruby, etc... =) |
eraserhd | Even though it was > 50% more than I was making. |
FB_Sarah | Akim: are you interested in Facebook |
ortschun | FB_Sarah: could we apply for 2010 summer internship? |
FB_Sarah | Akim: if you are |
Maxi | FB_Sarah: Excelent! Thank you :) |
fmm | lsa: sumiu??? |
FB_Sarah | Akim: we woul dlove to chat with you |
wrick | FB_David: Haskell? Really???? |
atulbansal | I see |
FB_Sarah | Akim: email me your resume: skurien@facebook.com |
FB_Tim | eraserhd: Hah, fair enough. The cost of living here is pretty bad but Facebook does compensate engineers agressively relative to companies in the area, especially ones our size |
k4knight | do u have internship? |
FB_Sarah | ortschun: of course |
FB_Sarah | ortschun: we have those available as well |
rator10 | FB_David: What does Facebook do where Haskell is useful? |
FB_Mary_Ann | ortschun: intern@facebook.com |
FB_Sarah | ortschun: send me your resime: skurien@facebook.com |
waitatshu | ouch i accidentally registered for the agent thing |
maradonah | Hello everybody |
k4knight | but where can we find internship information? |
s4sagar | FB_Sarah: Internship avl in India too ? |
FB_Mary_Ann | we are definitely looking for 2010 interns right now |
k4knight | like the intro to each position |
MauricioC | waitatshu: Just don't submit anything and you should be fine :) |
maradonah | FB_Sarah: do you have the option of freelancing? |
BBTiger | What a hot day |
FB_Sarah | s4sagar: not in india |
FB_Sarah | s4sagar: ou can come here |
fmm | lsa: hello? |
FB_Sarah | maradonah: no |
fun2on | you and i in this |
Doxi_FreeCoder | hehe |
FB_Clifton | k4knight: Go to www.facebook.com/careers and go to our "university" tab. |
ortschun | FB_Sarah: thx =) |
FB_Sarah | maradonah: you have to relocate |
Mince | Working for facebook -> Must go California? No chance to like remain in Singapore? |
atulbansal | 1Last question: How many hours does an engineer work per week on an average |
fmm | lsa: enter!! |
k4knight | haha, good luck guys |
askvij | FB_Sarah: Internship opportunity is for students only ?? |
FB_Clifton | Mince: Unfortunately, all of our engineering is in Palo Alto, CA. |
FB_Sarah | askvij: yes |
FB_Sarah | askvij: only for stduents |
wack-a-mole | FB_David: Nice talking to you. Thanks! |
FB_Sarah | askvij: must be in school |
FB_Tim | atulbansal: some work more than 50, but nobody is forced to. We have a lot of people that run on a regular 9 to 5 schedule. |
acm.ua | good luck!! |
TheVipeer | thanks for FB representatives for being so helpful :) I'll have to go now for the match |
[VVasi] | **[VVasi] WTF! LOL! |
FB_Sarah | askvij: yes |
pmnox | What makes work at Facebook unique? |
Mince | Ic.. How about in the future? Any foresights? |
FB_Sarah | askvij: just fo students |
FB_Matt | good luck everyone!!!! |
jmpld40 | Before the comeptition starts, I just want to thank Facebook for chatting. SO thanks! |
FB_Sarah | askvij: **If anyone is interested in Facebook |
FB_Mary_Ann | Thanks this was fun! Good Luck!! |
ntn | thanks to all FB_* :) |
el_vitucho | thank facebook |
FB_Matt | pmnox: the speed at which we scale and push out code |
FB_Sarah | askvij: send us your resume: skurien@facebook.com |
FB_Tim | thanks everyone! |
el_vitucho | thanks* |
jmpld40 | Additionally, if you want to apply for a job, go here: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=tournaments&d2=tco09&d3=overview&d4=sponsors&d5=sponsor3 |
FB_David | pmnox: We're changing the world =) |
FB_Sarah | askvij: and make sure you say you're interested in learning more about opportunities |
TAG | What are hard requirements for internation empoyees? Like degree, work exprience, etc. ? |
Evadez | thank you facebook ppl |
CodeRacer | thank, friends |
Atef | Thanks facebook :) |
askvij | FB_Sarah: :) |
FB_Clifton | Good luck everyone! |
psacawa | damn it I forgot to register! |
pmnox | do you have to write a lot of documentation? |
fmm | lsa: why?? |
zjintz | thanks for the info! |
jmpld40 | Finally if you have more questions for Facebook after this chat, you can post in their forum: http://forums.topcoder.com/?module=ThreadList&forumID=528190 |
FB_Clifton | ccheung@facebook.com |
el_vitucho | psacawa: hahaha |
el_vitucho | psacawa: thats funny |
bbharath | thanks facebook |
mbr1 | psacawa: wait until the next month :D |
FB_Tim | pmnox: some of our super-awesome engineers do |
FB_Sarah | pmnox: hi if youa re interested in an opportunity |
ank_it | Best of Luck 2 all |
FB_Tim | pmnox: in generally people should be writing more =) |
FB_Sarah | pmnox: please email us: skurien@facebook.com |
FB_Matt | TAG: If you really want to catch our attention, see if you can solve our puzzles http://www.facebook.com/careers/puzzles.php |
novicenet | I believe ChunGe |
Heruman312 | Thanks facebook! |
FB_Tim | pmnox: Writing great docs is one of the things that can help you stand out as a productive engineer here |
ortschun | Thanks! |
TAG | FB_Matt: but what if something is missing - how you will get around H1B visa requirements? |
novicenet | believe ChunGe,AC Everyday |
vpj | Thanks FB |
FB_Richard | TAG: there are still some h1b remaining and we would sponsor the h1b application |
michaelrpg | why can't I click enter room? I registered |
pmnox | Yes, I agree. I was curious what was your opition about this subject :) |
tryitn2 | thanks FB_Tim , FB_Clifton , FB |
Pomber | FB_Sarah: how do i send the answer of a FB puzzle? |
FB_Matt | TAG: for really good engineers, there's always a way |
pmnox | SRM start, I hate to go |
fmm | lsa: gooooood SRM =) |
pmnox | thx for chat |
FB_Tim | thanks for all the good questions tryitn2 |
TAG | FB_Matt: OK .. Thanks .. |
FB_Clifton | Good luck everyone! |
FB_Tim | bye guys =) |
Thaps | Thanks Facebook, you really make our lives easy, THANKS! |
atulbansal | Nice ti talk to facebook |
FB_David | Good luck all! |
stonet | screen scrollin fast! |
FB_Matt | good luck everyone |
Pomber | how do i send the answer of a FB puzzle? |
FB_Tim | yeah, good luck everyone |
Heruman312 | I wanna become a green! |
Mindhunter74 | Why don't you compete at Topcoder, Facebook guys? |
FB_Tim | Pomber: by email - there are details on www.facebook.com/puzzlemaster |
FB_Tim | Mindhunter74: A lot of us do |
FB_Tim | Mindhunter74: David and I are active competitors, among others |
FB_Matt | Pomber: go to our puzzles page to read more about submissions http://www.facebook.com/careers/puzzles.php |
Heruman312 | ten seconds more! |
Heruman312 | Start! |
Mindhunter74 | Great. I've expected that :) |
FB_Tim | Mindhunter74: =) |
Mindhunter74 | FB_Tim: Gotta split! See ya :) |
FB_Tim | Mindhunter74: good luck! |
FB_David | good luck! |
FB_David | Bye everyone! |